In this episode of the Threshing Floor, we sit down with John Heinz from Centerform, an innovation hub for Christian Ministry. Centerform serves as a co-working and event space in downtown Atlanta, Ga. 

Our conversation includes:

• Red Dawn.
• Gas station snacks.
• What movie have you seen the most?
• Casey Neistat.
• John Heinz, the chief innovation strategist at Centerform.
• Reurbanization and the church.
• Engaging urban ministry.
• Coexisting voices.
• Centerform is about questions and getting the right people at the table and discovering the answers together.
• Defining urbanization.
• What is an innovation hub?
• What it means to create a fishpond.
• Discovering common language together. 
• Rediscovering the idea of vocation. 
• Space for pioneers and apostles. 

We are back from our January break and ready to roll! 

In this episode, we hear from Joshua about his trip to Turkey and talk about what it means to leave our dreams and call on the shelf. It's a little different episode than normal, but it is full of great conversation. 

We talk about:

• Yogurt
• Catching Up
• Taking January Off
• Turkey or Turkey Dinner
• Istanbul (or Constantinople)
• The story of Joseph
• Active and passive faithfulness
• What does it mean when your call isn't happening?
• Twitter feedback
• The origins of "Alright, Alright, Alright"
• #chadwins